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September 14 - The Oakwood Striper Club meeting is Monday, September 17th. Lots of discussions will be the agenda. The results and reports from the phenomenal Don Brown Tournament will be talked about. The club shirts are done and look great. They will be available at the meeting. If you can't make the meeting, they will be available next week at OBT. We will be discussing the exciting changes coming up for next seasons Tournament series (starting in October). Anyone looking to team up with a partner, needs to be here. I have already had a few people asking. As our fiscal year ends this month, this is a reminder that starting in October we are hoping to get the dues out of the way up front for the year if possible. This means October 2018 to September 2019 for $100. This will help with paperwork and such. It also allows us to improve our choice of the dinner menus as we will have money in hand. So, no more Pizza! We may be able to select a 12 month menu if you wish. Also, dues will need to be current before signing up for a tournament or at least the day of. So in other words, you cant fish the first 2 months and pay quarterly dues on the 3rd month.
We have had a strange year at best. Recently the bite has improved and for the most part is back on schedule. Water temps are in the low 80s and the downline, and trolling bite have been strong. There has also been an increase in the size of fish caught. Topwater is just a stones throw away as the cool night temps settle in. So much to talk about.
September 9 - OSC meeting is next Monday. There has been some confusion due to having the tournament on an earlier date. Meeting is 9/17. I will email a reminder.
September 9 - Well September was our year end tournament. It was also the Don Brown Memorial. It couldn't have been a better day. Water temps were 84-85 degrees. The air temps started out in low 70's and became sunny and hit mid 80's at the finish. A total of 33 boats fished the tournament, 15 of which were OSC members. We had a good week leading up to Saturday. Saturday was no different. There was 1 Zero for OSC and only 2 for the whole tournament. The predictions were 58 inches would win it.
1st place went to Striper Sniper with 58.5". David and Jeff did what they had to do to fend off the others to lock in 3rd Place for the year. They fished around Big Creek. They had 2nd place in the overall Don Brown tournament. The winner of thet was Randy Dover's team "Has Beens" with a whopping 68.75".Their Big fish was 35.25".
2nd Place went to Abercrombie and Fish with 56.75". 3rd went to Team Greene with 56.25". Matt held on to 1st Place for the year with his solid performance. Thanks for Playing had 4th with 55.5" Ricky and Clintin worked hard trying to squeeze into 3rd for the year. They fell short by a handful of inches. 5th Place went to Double Trouble with 54.75". 6th went to Bucktales with 52.50" Scott with team Striper techs had 7th and 51". Jeff Garretts team had 8th with 49". Team Lanier had 9th with 49.25" Steve and Don got theirs trolling 5 minutes into the start. They continued on them through the day. 10th place went to Simpson Trucking with 49.25" Shawn and Leonel tried their luck up river. 11th went to Pribco with 48.5". Chaser had the same numbers and came in 12th place. Chaser did fish North of the pack. They stayed in Flat Creek and were well into double digits. 13th went to Gary Hanson with 48.25" 14th went to Fish Hunter with 37.5 inches.
Unless mentioned, the bite was in front of East Bank. Word has it there was over 30 boats in a Striper Flotilla. Fortunately, it seemed like everyone there caught fish. Downlining either herring or medium shad put fish in the boat. Fish were in either 30' or 80'. We had numerous teams that boated a dozen or more fish. After a slow summer, it was a well needed day on the pond. The meet and greet at Landsharks was a nice way to end the day. Both clubs were there enjoying a cold drink and or a snack. The Brown family was also there enjoying the respect of their lost family member. Don Brown was smiling down on us.
August 20 - A tough day for fishing in the August Tournament. the crazy rain held off which was nice. However the cloud cover and wind played some havoc on the fishery. Water temps were 84 to 87 depending where you were. The air temps were in the low 70s to start and ending near 80. We had 11 boats fish. We had more Zeros than fish.
1st place and Big fish went to Main & Arrow with 50.5 inches and a 26.25" Big fish. They fished over trees in deep water near the dam. 2nd place went to Back in Black with 45.5". Mike stayed in Baldrige and fishes freeline gizzard shad. He had a couple of missed opportunities with a 30" fish lost at the boat. 3rd place went to Bucktales with 44.25". Buck got his troliing umbrella rigs on a 30-50' bottom in Baldridge. 4th went to Team Greene with 38". Matt hit his in shallow water as well. He fished near the dam as well. Striper Hunter had 5th with a 16.5" fish. As for the rest, they were all in arms reach of everyone else. The fish over the channel near the dam were suspending from 60 to 80'. They did window shop and grab a few baits, but were not aggressive. It seems like the tree fish and or the very shallow fish were the only fish eating. Also a couple of boats got the shallow fish on freelines.
August 15 - The Oakwood Striper Club Tournament is Saturday, August 18th. Lines in at 6:30Am. Weigh in at OBT at 1:30PM or sooner.
Fishing has been fair. Fish are on a 30-50' bottom early and moving out to 80-90'. A little bit of everything is working. Downlines, umbrella rigs and or leadcore will produce. Fish in drains near mouths of creeks and midway back. Water temp is still 82-84. Everyday has a different ending. Don't stay in any one place too long. Bring plenty of bait. Change your baits often. Good luck to all!
The meeting is Monday at 6:30pm. Captain Mack Farr is our guest speaker. Hopefully we should have some club shirts to give out. Bring your money for the shirts. We have final plans for the Don Brown Memorial next month. We will go over the info and format.
July 17 - We are ordering Club shirts. Orders are due by July 31st. You will pay for them at the next club meeting. Long sleeve shirts are $15 and short sleeves are $10 each.
You have a choice in color. Colors available are : Black, White, Carolina (Light) Blue and Charcoal. The shirts are performance based and are a dry fit styled shirt. See the attachment for colors and shirt info. The short sleeve is the same shirt as long sleeve. The OSC Club Logo will be printed on front and back. On the front it is a small, baseball sized logo on the chest. On the back it will be a full sized logo.
If you want a shirt/shirts. Please email me your name, size, color and quantity. Again you can order multiple shirts. Example, A long sleeve in white and a short sleeve in charcoal. There is no limit. Just make sure you have the means to pay for them at the next meeting or you can get money to OBT.
July 17 - The July Tournament turned out tougher than we thought. The weather may have played a role. The forecast of a sunny day with a chance of a storm after 1PM changed to rain right out of the box. Rain stayed for a few hours. Flowery Branch and Big Creek got hammered by a solid storm. Water temps were 85 to 88 depending on you location. Air temps were low 70s rising to high 80s. A fairly strong south wind was in place for the morning as well.
Team Pribco won 1st Place with 50.75" Matt had big fish as well with a 25.5" striper. Matt had the high hook of the day with 6 stripers. He fished Big Creek on a 30-50' bottom in pockets. He found most of his fish glued to the trees. He caught them on downlines, dangling over the trees and or moving around to slick spots near the trees. Chaser had 2nd with 46.75". The Benson gang found theirs at their second stop. They caught a downline double in a pocket in Flowery Branch. It was a 40' bottom. 3rd went to Higgy with 43". Bill got his in Orr Creek. He was fishing downlines. Thanks for Playing had 4th with 41.75". Ricky and Clintin also fished Big Creek. They got theirs before 6:30. Bucktales had 5th with 39.25". Buck had the North end of the lake to himself. Both Teams, Double Trouble and Greene tied for 6th with 22".
We had 11 boats fish. 3 boats zeroed. 1 boat didn't make the weigh in. The pattern was early and shallow. The 30-50' bottom bite was the ticket. Downlines prevailed. Smaller baits were the choice. A number of boats reported Stripers feeding on the surface on small (1") baits. Trolling and power reeling were not productive.
July 12 - The Tournament is this Saturday. Lines in at 6AM, weigh in is at OBT at 1PM.
Fishing has been good. A variety of things are working. Fish are still somewhat shallow in the 30-50' bottoms. With this heat, I expect them to step out deeper. Downlines and power reeling has been solid. Also trolling leadcore and or Umbrella rigs has been productive as well. Water temps are on the rise. They are from 84 up to 86 degrees. Weather shows some chances of late afternoon storms. We should be long gone by then.
June 19 - The June Tournament really heated things up. It was an extremely hot and humid day. Temps were in the low 90's with high humidity and no wind. Teams found themselves swimming as much as fishing. Water temps sky rocketed up to 85-87 degrees on the southend. It was as predicted an extremely early bite. The majority of fish were caught in the 1st hour. A second batch came through and ate from 11-12. From 9am to 11 was tough. We had only 9 boats show up. We should have had the tournament in Florida, that's where most of our boats were!
Moving on to the tournament itself. Just when you think that lightning can't strike twice, it does. Team Greene does it again. This time he shattered his own Big Fish record from last month. The total was 70.5" with a Big Fish of 38.75". Its almost too good to be true. Sounds like days of old, or more hopefully days to come. Matts 1st fish came at 11:00am on a downline herring. He was fishing 30' down over a 50-60' bottom. His next couple came in the next hour doing the same thing. 2nd Place went to Thanks for Playing with 55.75". Ricky and Clintin got theirs early. It was also downlines on a 30-50' bottom. They were also South. Striper Sniper had 3rd with 54.5". Jeff and Alex fished south and got some numbers cating them over the trees with weighted freelines and downlines. The majority of theirs came in the 1st hour or so. Simpson Trucking had 4th with 50.5". Shawn and Leonel got theirs South on double split shot freelines 40-50' behind a planer board. They boated or should I say, Shawn boated 6 or 7 stripers. Abercrombie and Fish had 5th with 49". Chaser had 6th with 42.25". Bob got his in Mud Creek at 7:00AM. After that is was tough. He never found any big groups, just singles over a 30-50' bottom. 7th went to Rockfish with 41.75". Nate fish around Big Creek to start and ended up in Chestatee Bay at 12:00 to catch his last fish. Pribco had 8th with 23".
There were some fish in the channel, but they were singles and scatted. Fish were definitely stacked up in the trees 1st thing in the morning. We fished Shoal, Cocktail Cove, Flowery Branch, Orr Creek, Mud Creek and Chestatee Bay. That was advertised. I'm sure someone was in 6 Mile and or Two Mile as well. Fish were reported shopping and short biting or knocking down the rods. We had some fish chasing spoons but no takers. With this heat, the lake should be setting up for its traditional downline bite and spoon bite shortly.
June 12 - Our meeting is at OBT on Monday. We plan on having an informal cookout. It will be a friendly get together to promote camaraderie.
Also, take a look below at the samples of shirts. I'm thing we need to do a drifit styled shirt this time. We will try to get some samples to the meeting. We will need to get some counts going.
8420 are Team Maggie shirts
G200 & G240 are same as last OSC shirt
G420 & G474 are similar to Team Maggie shirts
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May 22 - We have had a solid week of heavy rain. The weatherman predicted more rain for Saturday. Thankfully, the weatherman was wrong. Saturday turned out beautiful fishing weather. It was overcast until noon. The winds were SE at 4-7MPH. The air temp started at 70 and climbed to 80. The water temps were at 79 degrees. As far as the fishing, it was as good as it gets. We had 12 boats show up and all 12 boats had action.
1st Place went to Team Greene with a whopping 63.25". Hold on to your hats for this one, Big Fish was 37.5". Finally the curse has been lifted. Matt caught 15 or so stripers up North pulling both herring and shad. He also caught them on downlines. His story of catching the big fish was priceless. The fish cut across all of his lines tying up planer boards and such. Obviously it was all worthwhile. 2nd Place went to Striper Sniper with 56". Rooster and Jeff got a 30.5" fish which again has been bigger than our average. They fished midlake and were done catching by 9am. 3rd place went ot Bucktales with 52.75" Buck and gang got some number hitting points from Wahoo south down to Gainesville Marina. 4th place went to Chaser with 52.25". Bob and Charles got into it on their second line and had a hard time getting lines deployed for the 1st hour. They fished C1 and marker 34. It was over before 9am for them as well. 5th went to Mr. Whiskers with 51.75". Josh got his around marker 36 to Robinson park. Chris Porter was right there with Josh at 51" and got 6th place. 7th went to Fish Hunter with 50.5". Bob stayed in Shoal creek and also had early action. Pribco had 8th place with 50.25". 9th went to Abercrombie & Fish with 48.75" Bryan stayed around Vanns Tavern. He got his early like most of us. 10th went to Thanks for Playing with 35.75". They also had early action. 11th went to Simpson Trucking with 26.5". Shawn had good action on shad and had 6 or so bites. He couldn't get them to stick. Lanier Striper caught some fish but decided to stay out and enjoy the day.
The pattern was an EARLY bite. Fishing main lake points was the key. Many bass fisherman were out fishing us throwing topwater up on points and running and gunning. The Sebille Magic Swimmer and Zara Spook are producing heavy right now.
May 16 - The OSC Tournament is this Saturday. Lines in at 6:30AM . Weigh in is at OBT at 2:00pm. (NO EXCEPTIONS). We are expecting some rain. We will monitor the weather. We will only cancel if there is any severe threats to start. Otherwise we fish. The fish are already wet! You can't cut grass or stain the deck, might as well fish.
Fishing has been improving. The fish have been coming down lake from the spawn. They are showing up in bays in good groups. There are still a lot of fish shallow and feeding early. Hopefully the weather holds out for the early morning. Be watching topwater. Casting to main lake points etc. Redfins, Zara spooks, magic swimmers and buck tails on or near surface will all work. I'm expecting another low to mid 50" weigh in. Make sure you stretch the tail to the nearest 1/4".
The meeting will be Monday as usual. Shane Foster is our guest speaker. Shane of course is one of the top tournament fisherman in the southeast. He is a premier bait catcher and I would say he thinks more like a fish as some fish do. We need to check him to see if he has gills. LOL
Also we have had an interest in making some more club shirts and hats. We will have samples. Lastly we will go over the up coming Don Brown Open tournament. Hope to see ya all there.
April 17 - The Team Maggie was another great tournament. Weather was good with slight winds and temps hitting 70s by afternoon. Water temp on the main lake is between 62-64 degrees. We had a solid turnout with 15 boats fishing and 52 boats in the overall tournament. The majority of the boats caught fish.
1st Place and Big Fish in both our tournament and Team Maggie went to Simpson trucking with 58.25". The Big Fish was 31.25". Shawn and Leonel had a slow day. They fished Balus and got an 18" fish. Moved to Chestatee Bay with no luck. Ran North to Thompson Creek and got their big fish. Ran up in the river with no luck. Finished back in Thompson to upgrade their kicker. Striper Sniper had 2nd with 53.25". Rooster and Jeff fished from Gainesville Marina to the mouth of Little River. Freelined herring and a downlined herring did the trick. 3rd went to Nate of Team Rockfish with 51.75". Nate got his up North in the Little River area and swung over to Johnson Creek to top off his day. 4th went to Chaser with 51.5". The Benson boys started in Flat throwing topwater on dock lights. They managed a couple of dinks and then moved out to Mt View to catch a few more on Sebiles and a freeline herring. Lanier Striper had 5th with 49.75". Pribco had 6th with 47.25". Abercrombie & Fish had 7th with 47". Bryan also fished Mt. View and FC3. 8th went to Jeff Garrett of Striper Structure with 44". Jeff lured them in with his hot pink attire. Team Greene had 9th with 41.75" Matt fished Johnson/Latham and beyond. Thanks for Playing had 10th with 39.75". Ricky and Clinton fished in Little River. They had a strong day of numbers, but no size. Fish Hunter had 39.5" for 11th Place. Double Trouble had 12th with a 28.5" Striper. Scott Berry had a 24.75" fish goof for 13th.
With the fish heading for the spawning grounds, the bite was still strong in open water pockets, fishing freelines. Late in the day the shallow bite (10' or less) started to show up. We heard a number of stories of larger fish in the 33-36" range chasing on big baits. Unfortunately we had no takers, I hope we get to see one of these larger fish in the next tournament.
April 10 - Reminder. Our club tournament is this Saturday. We are fishing along/with the Team Maggie Tournament. There is no entry to fish for Oakwood points only. If you are signed up for Maggie your points will count for both OSC and Lanier Striper club. For more info, check out our website or find Team Maggie on Facebook.
Again, no need to sign up for the Oakwood Tournament if you are already in the Maggie Tournament.
Our meeting will be Monday. The discussion is whether or not there are any big stripers left in Lanier. I think you will all be satisfied with the proof we have found.
March 20 - What a crazy ride we have had on the weather train. Last month we had water temps as high as 66. For March we had 54 degrees. Not to mention, huge amounts of rain. The good news is the lake is full. Saturday we had great conditions considering the weatherman predicted heavy thunderstorms. It rained heavy for an hour early in the morning, a couple hours before lines in. Otherwise we had a 55 degree start and it warmed up into the mid 60s. The wind was still at start and got to 7-10 by late afternoon.
Team Rockfish had 1st place with 57.75" and Big fish was 30". Nate mixed it up starting at East Bank and ending up in 4 Mile. His fish came 15 minutes before weigh in. That's why we don't quit! Simpson Trucking had 2nd with 55.5". Shawn found some in Gainesville creek as well as the Thompson Bridge pockets. Double trouble had 3rd with 53.5" It sounds like the team name held up, with a bunch of doubles. JR and gang found nothing in Little River and moved to the pond dam in the Thompson Bridge area. They witness big schools, birds working and surfacing fish. They caught them on everyway imaginable from freelines shad to downlines. The majority of the fish came on weighted lines 50' behind boards or floats. Team Greene had 4th with 51.75. Back in Black had 5th with 50". Mike stayed in Flat. He managed 1 in the back of the creek early. He ran into numbers in Mountain View on weighted lines 50' behind boards. Sounding familiar yet, just wait! Chaser had 6th with 49.75". Bob and Charles got into some numbers, also in Mountain View, also on weighted lines 50' behind boards. Fish Hunter had 7th place with 48", also in Flat. Bob and Richard got some early fish in the back of the creek. Striper Sniper got 8th with 44.75". Rooster and Jeff fish Balus and Flat with no luck. They made the run to the Thompson Bridge area with the other boats and got into some afternoon fish. Abercrombie & Fish had 9th with a single 26" fish. Bryan honkered down in the back of Flat creek. Pribco had 10th with 25" and Thanks for Playing had 11th with 23.5". Ricky and Clinton started in Flat and made their way south to get theirs.
Most (90%) of the fish came on herring. Its a pleasant change from fishing the shiners. Just a couple of fish came on shad. The shad were producing follows and getting blow up which more than like generated some other bites. Almost all the boats caught their fish on weighted lines behind boards or floats. The fish were schooling in the mouths of creeks in pockets from 40-70' deep. The fish were suspending in about 20' of water. We had 13 boats fish and 11 of them caught a striper. A number of boats caught them good catching between 5 and over 10 stripers. It was true to the predictions. Mouth of the creeks and or backs of the creeks were the ticket.
March 13 - The OSC Tournament is this Saturday. Start time is 7:30AM and weigh in is 2:30PM. Just a note, if you are weighing in through Facebook or via phone, there are no late weigh ins. At 2:31PM you will have ZERO. You can still show up at OBT at or before 2:30PM as always.
Fishing has been good. As Mike Toppings says, it will be a free for all for freelines. Freelining baits 100' or fishing behind boards will be a solid approach. The fishing has been good. Water temps are around 54. Fish are still schooled up in and outside mouths of the creeks in 30-60'. Some bigger fish have been mixed in (28-32") Also, lets not forget about the back of the creek bite. Fish big shad 10-15' behind a planer board. Fish the board up against the banks. I'm hoping to see at least one fish over 36". Lots of big herring are showing up in the backs of creeks. The stripers are definitely in there at night. Same should hold true for the 1st few hours.
The meeting will be on Monday. We have the DNR coming to speak about our Striper Fishery. Its a must listen
February 26 - Its been a tough two weeks with warm and heavy rain. The lake is technically at full pool. It rose about 4 feet in a couple of weeks. More importantly, the water temps jumped from mid forties to mid sixties. We had a main lake water temp of 62 and creeks and rivers were 64-66 degrees. Water quality is an issue. Apparently the rains blew out the backs of the creeks and brought a mudline and or debris out to mid creek or the mouths of the creeks. Most of the bait and fish were in open water cruising. The air temp was a beautiful 62 degree start and it finished in the mid to high 70s. The wind turned on by about 11:00am and it was gusting 11-15 mph.
The fishing was tough as expected. 1st Place went to Team Greene with 50.75". Matt fished North and caught a few fish on downline and freelines. Simpson Trucking had 2nd with 46.75. They fished up river. Chaser had 3rd with 37.5". Bob got his at Mountain View in Flat. Both were on freeline herring. The 1st few bites were White Bass. He fished over a 60-80' bottom. Pribco had 4th with a 27.5" fish. It was big enough to take Big Fish honors. Matt pointed out that his fish was extremely fat. Chaser's striper spit up about 7 or 7 threadfin at the boat. I agree with Matt, these fish have been eating well. Abercrombie & Fish had 5th with 24". Bryan stayed in the back of Flat. He had a second fish on but couldn't get it buttoned up till 2:05. Striper Sniper had 6th with a 22" fish. Higgy had 7th with a 14.25" White Bass. The other 6 boats tied for 8th.
No one really marked any big schools. It seemed that we were all fishing for singles or maybe 3 fish in a school. There were some missed bites and or some short bites as well. We need the lake to settle down again to bring the fish back into shallow water. Right now the lake will fish like April, if it stays like this.
February 21 - We are having the Striper Tournament this Saturday from 7:00AM to 2:00PM. Be careful in your travels on the lake. There is still some debris floating around. Hopefully the weather works out. They are predicting small chances of rain and lows in the 60s and a high of 75 degrees. Water temps are now 57-58 degrees. Typically the fish should be in the rear of the creeks or related to large flats or humps. We are still letting the stained water settle. Hopefully the fish out in open water will return to a normal spring pattern this week. Best bet is a combination of baits. I would have an assortment of big shad, herring and yes, even a shiner or two. Pull freelines and boards close to the banks Good luck to all. Remember, we can weigh in via Facebook or text pictures to Dillan prior to 2:00PM. Make sure your pictures are legible. Go ahead and type the size of the fish with your picture if possible. I'm expecting a few big fish to be landed. My guess is 66" for the win.
February 13 - Due to heavy rains, we will postpone our monthly tournament until next Saturday, February 24th. The reports are showing Lake Lanier is about 1 foot low. There is heavy debris including lumber, logs and even picnic tables floating around. Also reports from numerous Captains went out scouting Friday and Monday. The reports were dismal. The bait is in the main channel from Browns Bridge north to River Forks and beyond. The bait is 60' down. The creeks have heavy mudlines creating poor water quality. It will take a little time for the lake to settle. The good news is the water temp is around 51-52 degrees in the backs of the creeks. Once things settle, the bait and fish should move in shallow to find that warmer water.
Our meeting will be Monday. You all asked for it, so we are having an expert panel of Shad fisherman as our speakers. The panel consists of 3 of the top Shad fisherman in the south. Its Shane Foster, Stephen Knight and Leonel Castillo. We should all learn a great deal. Its a perfect time to discuss Shad fishing for trophy fish, considering the trophy season is late February to late April.
January 15 - The January Tournament wasn't very inviting. Bad weather and heavy rain storms during the week ended on Friday. What is left us was a nasty cold front. The air temps was low 20s to start mixed in with a 20-25MPH NW wind making it feel like single digits. Evidentially, the fish didn't care for it either. We had 9 boats brave the conditions. 3 boats managed to catch a striper.
1st place with 2 fish and 49.25" is Striper Sniper. Not sure but they may have been in Flat Creek. Rippin Lips had 2nd Place and Big Fish with a 31.25" striper. 3rd Place goes to Team Greene with a 24" striper. Matt was fishing in Shoal Creek.
Mostly everyone found fish and had fish moving, but no takers. There were many fish high in the water column in around 20'. We had teams pull umbrella rigs unsuccessfully. Also a lot of fish on a 50' bottom with lockjaw. We have determined they have been eating a bunch of the threadfin that are dying in the bait kill. The water temps have dropped by about 6 degrees in a fairly short period (days). This wounded some of the threadfin schools. The water temps were in the 46-47 degree range in the south and as low as 42 up north.
January 11 - Our OSC Tournament is this Saturday from 7:00AM to 2:00PM. Again with virtual weigh in, you don't need to be back at the weigh in. Your pictures must be submitted prior to 2:00. Make sure the pics are clean and legible
The weather looks like it will hold out for us. The rain on Friday shows it ending around midday. We will be fishing a post front. It will be on or around 32 degrees at start and warm up to 38 or so. Better than last 2 weekends.
There aren't a lot of reports due to holidays and freezing temps. I do know that the water temps are mid 40s. Fish are still half way to rear of creeks as they should be this time of year. A mix of small baits and big baits makes sense. No signs of any bait kill. Normally when we have a long period of freezing like we had, the bait will get weak and die off, especially threadfins. If so, fish the bottom or 1-2' off the bottom. The Urig or Alabama rig has been producing fairly well.